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'Scientists have discovered. . .' (misquote of scientists) or
'Scientists have long known. . .' (another misquote)
Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
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Hook Lines or Phrases Jehovah's Witnesses Use to Control You
by flipper into control a person, or control a group of people , any cult , including jehovah's witnesses , have to gain your trust that they are the authority on what you need to know.
even people have been known to use these " catch phrases " to gain trust , or " hook lines " as you'd call them to gain control over groups of people or individually in their own lives.
see if you are familiar with these phrases which empower the sender of the phrase , but demands rapt allegiance from listeners to be the " gospel truth " without challenge , which can take the listeners power away.
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Hook Lines or Phrases Jehovah's Witnesses Use to Control You
by flipper into control a person, or control a group of people , any cult , including jehovah's witnesses , have to gain your trust that they are the authority on what you need to know.
even people have been known to use these " catch phrases " to gain trust , or " hook lines " as you'd call them to gain control over groups of people or individually in their own lives.
see if you are familiar with these phrases which empower the sender of the phrase , but demands rapt allegiance from listeners to be the " gospel truth " without challenge , which can take the listeners power away.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
'We should be grateful that. . .' (for example) we were just handed another sack of shit in the form of New Light from Mother.
'Where are the back doors on this car?'
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
What up dogs. Working. Nice weather today. Got to run into a JWD member here today, that was nice.
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JWs: Biggest Turnover Rate of Members! "Masked churn" rate of 2/3rds!!
by Seeker4 inan article just out this afternoon said the following.
note especially the second paragraph about jws: .
for some groups, their relatively steady number of adherents over the years hides a remarkable amount of coming and going.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
2 excellent articles to save. . .from TIME and CNN!!!
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What would you do with 200 million dollars?
by annalice inok ,so i'm really bumed that i didnt win this last weeks mega millons.
the first thing i was going to do with my 200 mill.
was buy a nice big billboard right across from bethal and have it say "the truth is a lie!
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
I give you all a few thousand each. And I'd buy a couple of Toyota dealerships.
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CNN article worth noting
by free2beme inhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/living/wayoflife/02/25/religion.survey.ap/index.html.
"the group with the worst retention is one of the fastest growing -- jehovah's witnesses.
only 37 percent of those raised in the sect known for door-to-door proselytizing said they remain members.".
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New and Curious
by ttw1981 ini'm trying to read through some posts on this board to see what the central focus is, who comes here, etc.
it looks like many people here are ex-jw's, but are all?
or is it a combination of both?
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
I'd spent my whole life in it since age 4. I grew up hearing that JWs are better than everyone else, they don't hurt others, that our friends at the KH look out for one another and are real friends, but I kept seeing that the opposite was true. In contrast, the JWs believe and teach that everyone outside is bad, is out to rape us and turn us away from Jehovah and into blood-letting Satan worshippers.
My whole life I asked, 'Why did this elder yell at me at the meeting, why did that elder accuse me of this or that, why was my teen-age brother disassociated because he was a passenger with an elder's son who got a DUI but that boy wasn't excommunicated', and the answer always was how we have to forgive the imperfections of others. You get really hurt by 'perfect' grownups for most of your formative life, and you start to wonder if people aren't all just imperfect people, maybe there are some people out to use us and persuade others their way in AND out of the JWs, and then you learn that our job in life is to learn and act on what's right and moral and just without judging others.
When I figured this out in my mid-30's I was able to step back and see what else the WTS lied about, and even after a couple of years I still shake my head when I read the double-speak and side-stepping of doctrine and behavior by elders and governing body alike. I also realized that while I was a JW for 33 years, I never really had true friends, everything was conditional on how I (and others behaved). Imagine having a friend look down her nose at you because you fight to get to the meeting after work but you arrive late--which is taboo, or if you don't want to go in field service on a particular day, your friends give you a disapproving 'Hmm' and a smirk. Then when your own parents question you at length because you haven't mentioned the meetings in a while, they assume you haven't been going, turns out, mine had been checking on us from out of state. Then when you tell them you just have no intention of going anymore, that your heart has been broken by the lie you've lived, and your mother tells you 'You're no longer my daughter', your father says, 'Jule, we just can't speak to you anymore'. . .and you realize right then, what a dangerous and evil cult you were in.
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Should I attend a Lord's Evening Meal at local Kingdom Hall?
by ttw1981 ini am not a jehovah's witness but have been talking with a few jehovah's witnesses for about two months now, about once every week or every other week.
on saturday they came and we had 'bible study' (actually starting to go through what does the bible really teach?
), and as they left they gave us a list of their meeting times at the local congregation and invited us to observe the lord's evening meal with them on march 22.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
ttw-- you sound like a very kind person. Thanks for posting here! I enjoyed reading your statements and feelings. I guess, if many of us had it to do over again, we would ask one question of them, and it's a simple one:
'If I became a JW, does the WTS teach that I should limit the time that I spend with my own sister, my brother, grandparents, cousins, old and dear friends and neighbors and even my parents?'
and then I'd ask, 'If I became a JW then some time later decided to leave it, would I be viewed differently by the JWs, even shunned, avoided by people who had become my friends. . .would I be considered a bad association?'
the answers to these are YES. But they hide this until you're fully indoctrinated.
(others have asked similar questions like: Can I do research on the history of JWs and that of their beliefs? [they will then hand you their own books for this] Then ask 'why not go to the library or the internet too'. . .researching JWs in sources other than their own is forbidden.) This is an eyeopener for many people.
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Do you ever miss it? Ever?
by AK - Jeff infor me - rarely would be the correct word.
i don't miss the indoctrination.
i don't miss the wasted time in service.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
I miss the closeness of some of the friends we had. That's all. However, I know that it came at a price, I knew it even then. I don't like to pay for things that should be given freely, like love, for one.
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I finally Left!
by The Doc 58 ini would like to give the full details of my leaving the jw's, but i don't have a lot of time at this moment.
basically i was raised in the organization and it drove me pretty insane bacause my father was an elder, mother a pioneer, sister a bethelite, etc.
so, i did the whole thing for a long time.
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
Welcome Doc. Looking forward to reading more of you!